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How are Hinduism and Sikhism related, considering they both originated in Punjab, India?

13.06.2025 01:37

How are Hinduism and Sikhism related, considering they both originated in Punjab, India?

Sain (a barber)

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ਸੋ ਬ੍ਰਹਮੁ ਬਤਾਇਓ ਗੁਰ ਮਨ ਹੀ ਮਾਹਿ ॥੧॥

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For him Dharma was beyond everything physical including the desire for heaven because was fully into the NIRGUN . The last verse shows that according to him the company of the enlightened Sadhus is heaven which is again a typical teaching of Sanatana Dharma.

The views of Kabir are very much in parallel to the Advaita philosophy and it is obvious that as the disciple of Ramanandacharya he will carry forward with his chosen NIRGUN BHAKTI.

Guru Nanak (right) and Bhai Mardana (foreground) with Bhagat Kabir (left). This painting is found in the B-40 Janamsakhi, written and painted in 1733. The painting was made by Alam Chand Raj

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He accepted even women (Sursuri and Padywati) as disciples. Bhagat Pipa and Dhanna were Rajput and Jat who were also his disciples.

So in the same spirit Kabir finds pilgrimages to holy cities futile as his mind is fixated on Rama!

Gauree, Kabeer Jee, Panch-Padas:

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Kabir, Ravidas and ultimately the NINE SIKH GURUS are a product of this very Sant Sampraday founded by Ramanandacharya!

Ramananda accepted disciples without discriminating against anyone by gender, class or caste and they included even people from humble origins like

The Sant Sampraday of Sikh panth integrates the warrior spirit of the Nihangs and Khalsa, the service of Seva panth and the renunciation of Udasi/Nirmala saints.

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Kabeer: O worthless mortal, do not lose the Naam, the Name of the Lord.

ਮੇਰਾ ਚਿਤੁ ਨ ਚਲੈ ਮਨੁ ਭਇਓ ਪੰਗੁ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

I went to God's place, and worshipped Him there.

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ਘਸਿ ਚੰਦਨ ਚੋਆ ਬਹੁ ਸੁਗੰਧ ॥

ਤੂ ਪੂਰਿ ਰਹਿਓ ਹੈ ਸਭ ਸਮਾਨ ॥

Now that my time to die has come, I have come to dwell at Magahar! ||3||

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Bhakti movement began in South (Tamil Nadu to be precise) and slowly spread to Northern parts of India. This movement was extremely popular because of its simple fundamentals which could be understood by even commonfolk. Vaishnavism, Shaivism etc… were already connecting with commonfolk from a long time and this Bhakti movement reinforced it by making the devotee feel a personal connection with the deity.

Let’s see what Gurbani has about Ramanandacharya’s views.

The influence of Kabir is significant on Sikhism. The following Bani from Ang 1136 is attributed to GURU ARJAN DEV but if you observe at the end you can see that he was talking in the spirit of Sant Kabir.

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Where millions of Shivas are lost in contemplation, where millions of Indras dwell in the sky,

— Kabir, III.2, Translated by Rabindranath Tagore

ਬਹੁਤੁ ਬਰਸ ਤਪੁ ਕੀਆ ਕਾਸੀ ॥

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CONCLUSION:

Hari is in the East, Allah is in the West.

ਨਾ ਹਮ ਹਿੰਦੂ ਨ ਮੁਸਲਮਾਨ ॥

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The Saadh Sangat, the Company of the Holy, is heaven. ||4||10||

Now here in this verse

There the streams of light flow in all directions, few are the men who can cross to that shore!

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There, where millions of Krishnas stand with hands folded,

Sikhism is a NIRGUN path descending from the Sant Sampraday of Ramanandacharya and traces its ideas to VEDANTA!

Where spring, the lord of seasons reigneth, there the unstruck music sounds of itself,

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One Universal Creator God. By The Grace Of The True Guru:

ਮੁਆ ਕਬੀਰੁ ਰਮਤ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਰਾਮੈ

Here ਰਾਮੈ is Rama and not just lord. Kabir died chanting the name of Rama DESPITE him not finding any result of penances done in holy cities in his previous birth. Another example to show how much Kabir valued personal devotion to Rama in his own NIRGUN style.

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Ramanandacharya’s teachings were centered on pure and personal connection with the God Rama and didn’t believe in any kind of formal ritualism. He used the common vernacular language instead of Sanskrit so that everyone could understand.

Raamaanand's Lord and Master is the All-pervading Lord God.

With inadequate devotion, how can anyone swim across? ||4||

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Where millions of Vishnus bow their heads, where millions of Brahmas are reading the Vedas,

ਬ੍ਰਹਮ is Brahm i.e the Brahman of vedanta but it gets interpreted as an all-pervading lord god.

You have cut through all my confusion and doubt.

ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਮੈ ਬਲਿਹਾਰੀ ਤੋਰ ॥

He who has highest Bhakti of Deva (God), just like his Deva, so for his Guru (teacher),

NOW…

One day, a desire welled up in my mind.

As long as the mind is filled with the desire for heaven,

ਗਉੜੀ ਕਬੀਰ ਜੀ ਪੰਚਪਦੇ ॥

The young and the old drink milk pudding, but these fools eat the cow's body.

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Sriraag / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 92

ਏਕ ਨਿਰੰਕਾਰ ਲੇ ਰਿਦੈ ਨਮਸਕਾਰਉ ॥੩॥

Actually, this part of the Ang 326 is widely used by McSikhs to show that Sikhism considers Hindu pilgrimages as useless and thus drives home the point again that the “religion” has got NOTHING to do with Hinduism.

Where the demi-gods and the munis are unnumbered, where millions of Saraswatis, goddess of music play the vina,

ਮਰਨੁ ਭਇਆ ਮਗਹਰ ਕੀ ਬਾਸੀ ॥੩॥

ਕਹੁ ਕਬੀਰ ਇਹ ਕਹੀਐ ਕਾਹਿ ॥

ਗੁਰ ਕਾ ਸਬਦੁ ਕਾਟੈ ਕੋਟਿ ਕਰਮ ॥੩॥੧॥

ਕਹੁ ਕਬੀਰ ਇਹੁ ਕੀਆ ਵਖਾਨਾ ॥

I do not make pilgrimages to Mecca, nor do I worship at Hindu sacred shrines.

These morons know nothing, they wander about in ignorance,

Ravidas (a chamar shoemaker)

Without looking into one's heart, how can one reach paradise?

ਅਲਹ ਰਾਮ ਕੇ ਪਿੰਡੁ ਪਰਾਨ ॥੪॥

ਮੁਆ ਕਬੀਰੁ ਰਮਤ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਰਾਮੈ ॥੫॥੧੫॥

Let’s look at the most used verse by McSikhs to show that Sikhs are neither Hindus nor Muslims.

ਕਬੀਰ ਨਿਰਗੁਣ ਨਾਮ ਨ ਰੋਸੁ ॥

I have taken the One Formless Lord into my heart; I humbly worship Him there. ||3||

— Kabir, II.57, Translated by Rabindranath Tagore

I left Benares - I had little common sense. ||1|| Pause ||

I wasted my whole life in the city of Shiva;

ਜਿਉ ਜਲ ਛੋਡਿ ਬਾਹਰਿ ਭਇਓ ਮੀਨਾ ॥

ਊਹਾਂ ਤਉ ਜਾਈਐ ਜਉ ਈਹਾਂ ਨ ਹੋਇ ॥੨॥

I do not perform Hindu worship services, nor do I offer the Muslim prayers.

Says Kabeer, this is what I say:

Sikhism is fundamentally rooted in BHAKTI tradition and thus ultimately in Sanatana Dharma. There is no doubt about it despite what modern McSikh acrobatics try to claim otherwise

ਬੇਦ ਪੁਰਾਨ ਸਭ ਦੇਖੇ ਜੋਇ ॥

Sant Kabir was staunchly against cow slaughter.

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 325

ਸਗਲ ਜਨਮੁ ਸਿਵ ਪੁਰੀ ਗਵਾਇਆ ॥

He does not dwell at the Lord's Feet. ||3||

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ਪੂਜਾ ਕਰਉ ਨ ਨਿਵਾਜ ਗੁਜਾਰਉ ॥

ਕਤ ਜਾਈਐ ਰੇ ਘਰ ਲਾਗੋ ਰੰਗੁ ॥

My consciousness does not go out wandering. My mind has become crippled. ||1|| Pause ||

ਹਜ ਕਾਬੈ ਜਾਉ ਨ ਤੀਰਥ ਪੂਜਾ ॥

Raamaanand's Lord and Master is the All-pervading Lord God.

Where should I go? My home is filled with bliss.

ਕਾਸੀ ਮਗਹਰ ਸਮ ਬੀਚਾਰੀ ॥

If God be within the mosque, then to whom does this world belong?

There is my Lord self-revealed, and the scent of sandal and flowers dwells in those deeps.

We can see that great saints like Kabir and Ravidas etc… descended from the Ramananda sampradaya which is still the largest ascetic order in India.

Now tell me, Lord, what will my condition be?

There is a reason why I mention ROOTED and thus NOT implying that it belongs to one of the numerous sects in Sanatana Dharma like Shaivism, Vaishnavism, Shaktism, Smartism etc…

To him who is high-minded, these teachings will be illuminating.

ੴ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ ॥

That God showed me the Guru, within my own mind. ||1||

For many years, I practiced penance and intense meditation at Kaashi;

Wherever I go, I find water and stones.

Raamaanand Jee, First House:

How can people understand You, when they are entranced by Maya? ||1|| Pause ||

For a superficial McSikh who is interested only in separation and not enlightenment the views of Kabir can be easily shown as a denouncement of Hindu practices.

ਜਹਾ ਜਾਈਐ ਤਹ ਜਲ ਪਖਾਨ ॥

Kabir (a weaver)

All the men and women of the world are His living forms.

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Says Kabeer, unto whom should I tell this?

Again we see that the originator of this Sant Sampraday himself talks about Brahman even in Gurbani.

Because in my previous life, I did not practice penance and intense meditation. ||1||

From where did the word Maya come? Isn’t it a typical Vedantic concept discussed profoundly in Advaita? It definitely isn’t a concept pioneered by Kabir or even his teacher Ramanandacharya! It is ultimately from Sanatana Dharma!

यस्य देवे परा भक्तिः यथा देवे तथा गुरौ । तस्यैते कथिता ह्यर्थाः प्रकाशन्ते महात्मनः प्रकाशन्ते महात्मन इति ।

At the time of my death, I moved to Magahar. ||2||

Ramarchan Paddati gives more info about his teachings.

then who is there to know what happens without?

ਤਜੀ ਲੇ ਬਨਾਰਸ ਮਤਿ ਭਈ ਥੋਰੀ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

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ਓਛੀ ਭਗਤਿ ਕੈਸੇ ਉਤਰਸਿ ਪਾਰੀ ॥੪॥

The divergence of Kabir’s views from Vedanta is seen in the fact that he fully opposed religious symbolism of ALL KINDS and not just IDOLS.

You are totally pervading and permeating in all.

ਤਬ ਲਗੁ ਹੋਇ ਨਹੀ ਚਰਨ ਨਿਵਾਸੁ ॥੩॥

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਜੀ ਘਰੁ ੧

— Kabir, Ramaini 1, Translated by David Lorenzen

Look within your heart, for there you will find both Karim and Ram;

We have searched the turaki Dharam (Turk's religion, Islam), these teachers throw many thunderbolts,

ਜਬ ਲਗੁ ਮਨਿ ਬੈਕੁੰਠ ਕੀ ਆਸ ॥

Here ਨਿਰਗੁਣ is Nirgun and not just lord. This is just another example to show that Kabir himself continued in the NIRGUN BHAKTI path.

ਗੁਰ ਪੀਰ ਮਿਲਿ ਖੁਦਿ ਖਸਮੁ ਪਛਾਨਾ ॥੫॥੩॥

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Ramanandacharya was a 14th-century Hindu Vaishnava devotional poet saint who amalgamated Advaita with Vaishnava Bhakti. He was the pioneer in validating NIRGUN and SAGUN Bhakti as parallel paths.

If Ram be within the image which you find upon your pilgrimage,

ਮਰਤੀ ਬਾਰ ਮਗਹਰਿ ਉਠਿ ਆਇਆ ॥੨॥

From Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 1195

Says Kabeer, the Guru and Ganaysha and Shiva all know

Sadhna (a Muslim butcher) and

But we have actually seen how much Kabir is also rooted in the Vedantic concept of “supreme realization” but in a non-mainstream path.

ਅਬ ਕਹੁ ਰਾਮ ਕਵਨ ਗਤਿ ਮੋਰੀ ॥

I am not a Hindu, nor am I a Muslim.

I have searched through all the Vedas and the Puraanas.

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 326

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਸੁਆਮੀ ਰਮਤ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ॥

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਸੁਆਮੀ ਰਮਤ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ॥

Shvetashvatara Upanishad (6.23)

I am like a fish out of water,

As mentioned above Guru Arjan Dev was talking from the perspective Sant Kabir whose views we have discussed much earlier here. We know that Sant Kabir continuing in the Ramanandi Sampradaya went further away from the mainstream ritualistic Hinduism and was journeying more towards a SEAMLESS Dharma.

ਕੈਸੇ ਬੂਝੈ ਜਬ ਮੋਹਿਆ ਹੈ ਮਾਇਆ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

ਪੂਜਨ ਚਾਲੀ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ਠਾਇ ॥

I would go there, only if the Lord were not here. ||2||

How can they kill the mother, whose milk they drink like that of a wet nurse?

We can understand that Kabir despite being in favor of formless worship was very much embedded in the Dharmik fold but always preached in the spirit of the transcendental nature of Brahman to the point that HE LOST THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN HINDU AND MUSLIM.

The Word of the Guru's Shabad eradicates the karma of millions of past actions. ||3||1||

My body and breath of life belong to Allah - to Raam - the God of both. ||4||

I serve the One Lord, and not any other. ||2||

That Kabeer died chanting the Lord's Name. ||5||15||

Kaashi and Magahar - I consider them the same.

I am a sacrifice to You, O my True Guru.

ਨਾ ਹਮ ਹਿੰਦੂ ਨ ਮੁਸਲਮਾਨ ॥

Recklessly they display boundless pride while explaining their own aims, they kill cows.

Let's look at the views of Sant Kabir

ਏਕ ਦਿਵਸ ਮਨ ਭਈ ਉਮੰਗ ॥

I am not a Hindu, nor am I a Muslim.

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 325

ਜਿਨਿ ਸਕਲ ਬਿਕਲ ਭ੍ਰਮ ਕਾਟੇ ਮੋਰ ॥

Meeting with the Guru, my Spiritual Teacher, I realize God, my Lord and Master. ||5||3||

ਪੂਰਬ ਜਨਮ ਹਉ ਤਪ ਕਾ ਹੀਨਾ ॥੧॥

ਏਕੋ ਸੇਵੀ ਅਵਰੁ ਨ ਦੂਜਾ ॥੨॥

I ground up sandalwood, along with several fragrant oils.

ਸਾਧਸੰਗਤਿ ਬੈਕੁੰਠੈ ਆਹਿ ॥੪॥੧੦॥

Kabir is the child of Allah and of Ram: He is my Guru, He is my Pir.

ਕਹੁ ਗੁਰ ਗਜ ਸਿਵ ਸਭੁ ਕੋ ਜਾਨੈ ॥